graphporn yay

good job on the market changes, very much appreciated

mspaint? Do it in excel, much easier.

I thought Assault Missiles used to be Heavy Assault Missiles, no? And they were changed recently so that "Heavy Assault Missiles" and "Heavy Missiles" wouldn't both be in the game, because they sound too similar and are confusing? Now you're undoing that recent good work, unless I'm crazy.

Surely you want to change Heavy Assault Missile Launchers -> Assault Missile Launchers instead!? Then the potential for confusion between HAMs and Heavies will stay removed.

If you're gonna be working on missiles FoxThree would have been more appropriate

Love the graph !

"Fox 4" = facetious reference to missile shot; for example, if someone claimed to shoot a missile in an impossible situation, he might be accused of shooting a non-existent "top secret" missile requiring a "Fox 4" call. Also jokingly used when an aircraft is brought down by something other than a missile; for example, a midair collision.

More type name changes make my third-party dev face sad

... but the slightly OCD part of me happy... ah well, you win some and lose some...

I'm still gonna call them FoFs, so take that CCP!

Just checked can add ca-1 and ca-2 to market quickbar but not on market please fix this

STOP RENAMING STUFF!. what was wrong with it being called Friend or Foe? jesus christ does everything have to be dumbed down and made ambiguous? it used to be if you named something by just scourged you just told the person what sized missile and what type of damage, now it could be a any of a dozen missiles. HAMS need to stay hams because they were the counterpart to heavy missiles.

on the plus side the implants did need a massive reorganization and thank you for that.

Hi CCP FoxFour, welcome to CCP and the greater EvE community. Hope you like your new job and wish you long years and tons of fun doing it. Also, thank you for fixing all the inconsistent missile names, those really should not have been left behind. As for renaming the F.O.F missiles to Auto Targeting, I do understand that the naming convention would make things easier for new players but I do hope you will remember us bitter old Killboard admins who have to put up with broken killmails for weeks before a DB update is pushed out. Now, the F.O.F missiles are rarely used so its no big deal but any time a popular item undergoes a name change a lot of KB admins begin to cry. So next time please think of that under-appreciated group. Thanks.

I think you just made up yout #tweetfleet graph
http://analytics.topsy.com/?q=%23tweetfleet

Are the genolution CA-1 and CA-2 being seeded now? Or are they still rare gift items from a while ago?

Second best devblog graph ever! \o/

So mr Foxfour.

Any success at directing your attention/OCD at the build quota window?.
verification of it shouldnt take more than a couple of minuttes?.

I think there's value in the HG-1001 encoding. "HG" gives us a short, unambiguous way to refer to (or autolink) the implant without spelling it out. The "-10" tells you that it goes in implant slot 10, which is important enough that it's worth making explicit in the name.

I agree that "Inherent Implants 'Noble'" isn't adding a lot of value, and I think we can make a reasonable compromise. How about dropping "Inherent Implants" but keeping "Noble"? 'Noble' already implies the manufacturer, and the manufacturers are not particularly relevant or evocative as NPC corporations. Knowing the manufacturer doesn't even help me to guess which LP stores might carry the implant.*

We'd still have "Imperial Navy" etc. for the faction variants, as usual. I'd be perfectly happy to read:

'Noble' Hull Upgrades HG-1001
'Lancer' Large Energy Turret LE-1005
'Beancounter' Research RR-603

If nothing else, the (admittedly idiosyncratic) names help to distinguish the implants from similarly named skills.

*Feature opportunity! Add a tab to the Info window for LP items listing the corporations which carry them.

A chance to educate a dev: Each one of the main factions has a "biotech" company that, in the fluff, manufactures implants. These are:
- Eifyr & Co. (Minmatar Republic)
- Genolution (Jove Directorate)
- Inherent Implants (Amarr Empire)
- Poteque Pharmaceuticals (Gallente Federation)
- Zainou (Caldari State)

How come there are no numbers on the X & Y axis of the graph!!!!! What are you trying to hide from us? I smell conspiracy!
PS: When are we going to get faction Tin Foil Hats in NEX
<-------- This portrait's tin foil hat is receding

Anyway you can direct your attentions to the BluePrint section of the market. You guys did a re-organization of the ships and the sub categories they were in. Anyway you could extend that to the blueprints as well?

Sorry if this has been asked and answered before but I'm too lazy to read through the entire thread.
Will the following implants be renamed accordingly ?

Zainou 'Snapshot' FOF Explosion Radius FR-100x -> Zainou 'Snapshot' Auto-Targeting Explosion Radius ATR-100x
Zainou 'Snapshot' Assault Missiles AM-70x -> Zainou 'Snapshot' Heavy Assault Missiles HAM-70x


On the F.O.F definition related post, F.O.F stands indeed for 'Friend or Foe'.

"I made another change as well. When we renamed the category F.O.F. Missiles to Auto-Targeting Missiles the missiles themselves stayed as F.O.F. and so did the skill. I have gone through updated all the auto-targeting missiles to have a matching name scheme along with the blueprints and the skill."

Was this something that was implemented today after DT, or in the near future? (It was unclear in the Blog, and implies that it has already been implemented...)

I ask this only because, well... have a look:

The image I'm linking here is an F.O.F. Missile example of what I'm still seeing in game (19 hours after your Dev Blog):

- our Market BPO collection
- the actual BPO Info itself
- the listing of the BPO in the Market View
- and the Market View of the actual F.O.F.

[ FOF image ]

Changes are not yet on SiSi. Probably will be avail on the next patch release.

Correction: F.O.F fix is not on SiSi.

While you're renaming things, please look at rigs. They are a jumbled mess when sorted alphabetically, would like to see the names lead off with a Group classification word.

(something like this)
Medium Armor: Anti-EM Pump I
Medium Armor: Aux Nano Pump I
Medium Astronautic: Aux Thrusters I

Re: Blueprints on market

The categories aren't quite right...

The whole thing with Assault Missiles vs. Heavy Assault Missiles is that the skills are now called "Assault Missiles" and "Assault Missile Specialization" as opposed to the former "Heavy Assault Missiles" and "Heavy Assault Missiles Specialization". So by changing Assault Missiles back to Heavy Assault Missiles, things have gotten mismatched again. I appreciate you were trying to make the ammo match the launcher, but you need to look at which is using the name of the associated skill.

CCP FoxFour, I am currently drinking The Glenrothes Vintage 1988 Whisky. Do you think this is a good choice tonight? Also, what frigate would go best with this particular whisky for solo PvP in low-sec?

Inherent Implants'Noble' Hull upgrades HG-1004
4% bonus to armor hitpoints

I really think that should read "Armor upgrades HG-1004" as it has nothing to do with hull (in Eve sense)

"Blood Raiders" is written as "bloodraider" in the Talisman implants' description. My OCD feels this should be brought to the attention of CCP FoxFour's OCD.

Also, that's one sexy graph.

I'd like to point out something that I'm surprised hasn't bothered anyone else to my knowledge: Heavy Neutron Blaster is a medium gun while Neutron Blaster is a large gun...

Am I the only one who sees that as being backwards?

Yes, but this is a dangerous topic to bring up as CCP will come up with yet another naming scheme that makes just as little sense.

Sometimes, the quirks of EVE are OK to leave in-place.

Widow still says to have a bonus to Siege and Cruise missile launchers.

Yes, I just double checked, Widow' and Scorpion Navy Issue' descriptions refers to siege launchers, while ingame said launchers named as Torpedo.

Sure. BR ID 143335

Continuing on this. Bugreport 143338. Regarding Lachesis bonus. Put your name in the description FoxFour

Honestly, if you gave me the formatting rules you are using on the ship info pages, I would fix them all myself (I seriously would) to look like the new tier 3 battlecruiser standard with clear and separated bonuses.

*brofist*

Great work

While it's not about missile but If you touch the Lachesis...

Both the Lachesis and Arazu have this bonus in their description:
- "20% bonus to warp disruptor range"

But the bonus counts for warp disruptors AND warp scramblers.
That means the description should read either
- "20% bonus to warp disruption range"
or
- "20% bonus to warp disruptor and warp scrambler range"

Similary, in the Propulsion Jamming skillbook it says:
- "5% Reduction to warp scrambler and stasis web capacitor need per skill level. "
instead of e.g.
- "5% Reduction to warp scrambler, warp disruptor and stasis web capacitor need per skill level. "

(Want an extra bug report for that or..?)

Done! Bug ID: 143396

(First bug report I think, I hope "Other" was the right category)